The Dark Knight

I believe that the Dark Knight has a awesome view on Film Noir by the use of the main character Bruce Wayne as being the rich man that helps out Gothem City as one person and as another the outcast.  He is living a double life as being both Batman which believe is the ambigous protagonist and Bruce Wayne which is no one in film Noir.  But Harvey Dent is seen as a hero because in the beinging of the film we see him fighting for what he belived was right and fighting crime. He even takes the rap stating that he is Batman to lure the Joker out to be caught.  But something happens to Harvey when his finance dies Batman has to choose who to save and the Joker tricks him into saving Harvey and he and both Batman loose the woman they loved.  And because of this Harvey Dent now becomes the bad man known as two-face Harvey Dent one side is still the pretty boy politican that we have came to know and love and the other is the cold heartless two-face.  and by the end he becomes the Anti-Hero because of his actions taken with the Joker to try and kill Batman so by the end of the story Two-face ends up being killed by Batman but in the end all of the blame is put on Batman because he wants everyone to think of him as not having to follow the laws of man and that he is above them. 

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Difference of Noir

The girl who kissed barnaby jones was deffinetly Noir.  At first Cherie just seems to be like your normal waitress that's a actrees and working at a diner.  But we end up finding out that she is a craked out meth head.  We see that the guy that she brings in to the house that she is house sitting for is her friends that both knows the man telling the story and Cherie.  We come into the story as she has already shot him and brings this guy into set him up to have to help out so she tricks him, by telling him to come over and sleep with her and after she shoots him she wants the guy to help and get rid of the body.  But him being the good guy he is he's trying to save the guys life and she wants him dead and the guy doesn't want to let him die.  This is classic Noir where the women is the Femme Fatale Cherie tries to play on his manly needs and since she can't convince him to kill Gary she tries to kill him in cold blood.  And the other story The hour when the ship comes in it's has no sign of the Femme Fatale.  And it's hard to see how this story shows elements of Film Noir to me.  In this story this guy Yancy ends up saving the womens life in this story because she ends up seeing his friends that killed her friends and this guy can't stand to see this innocent woman get killed like everyone else.  Yancy is the ambigous protaginist but their is no Femme Fatale to set him up.  So he uses his own concisence and saves the people they were going to kill and he feels bad for what he has done with his life.

Option #2

In the kidnapper bell takes place in the la river and yes i believe it gives us a good discription of what you would see if you go into the la river or into the strom drains.  And in the city of commerce they give a really good discription of how it would be in a casino but not normally what you would think it would look like.  Instead of it being appleaing to the eyes it's the exact opposite of what we think it would look like in a normal nice casino.  And in the kidnapper bell i like how both stories is a play on the tittle but when he gets into the strom drains it depicts to us how small and dark and not visible light comes though because of the images that he sees.  Yes in both stories it's a good discription of what you would see and how it is being told to us in the story makes us feel as if we were their in the and storm drains. And in the city of commerce it shows us how really not safe we are when we think that we are.  As jim in the the story comes to find out when he was trying to get aide for the securuity and was grabbed by some thugs and knocked over the head and wakes up in their room and thinks he's gonna die because he took money from their mob boss and he didn't like to loose.

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The method was cleary the better Noir story to me because their was a crazy way that the story was told and from the femme fatale point of view from a man.  Also that their realationship was open and was not secrective it made Holly believe that everything was fine and all along Richard knew he was setting her up.  I believe it has elements of Neo Noir because the Female is playing the part of the ambigous protaginist instead of the normal man playing that part so it's reversed. Like how Holly is enraged at the end of the story because Richard only used her to try and get what he wanted.  And when she found out that Richard and his old actress girlfriend that was her roomate it caused Holly to commit murder because of her revenge. Holly is the ambigous protaginist and is crazy because she plays this innocent role of to me the girl next door but really shes not she contimplates killing and seems to enjoy it because she can get away with it.  And in the story the Morroco Junction it's just merelty a overlook of how people in rich neigborhoods are brought up. Its told by a women narrator's view from a womens perspective that's why it shows how it's elements of Neo Noir.

Option 1

In flim noir they talk about dark and murky places and in the story.  Just like in fim noir but the difference is that they are showing more of the violence and the way how in now adays that people that are killers are more careful and crafty about it.  And how they are not willing to let the person get away even after they get the money.  And now we can see really how crazy and diabolical the female in the modern generation of Neo Noir can play a big role.  The mother of the girls is the one that ends up killing her husband because she found him to be unfaithful.  If this was a Noir we would wish for death for her becuase of the actions she has brought against herself.  But because this is a portrayl of the Neo Noir we find it more accecptable for her to commit murder and get away with it.  And the problem is that her husband not even knowing that it was his own wife and she killed him becuase he lied to her.  And to add insult to injury the mother says that it was all just a joke and that their daddy loves them and will meet them later.  When she knows she moved on to another man.  This also shows how much more grusome and crazy the women of this generation are and what they are capable of doing to those that are in their family whom and at one time they loved and cared about.  Also setting up her husband to loose everything he has and to believe they were gonna kill him and his family and no one else.

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Compairing the Noir's Neo Vs Noir

To me the biggest difference between Neo Noir and Noir is that is that the focus shifts from being all about the man telling the story to the woman.  Portraying the narrator and giving her side to how she feels and i like this portyal of a woman being in control of the whole thing.  Also in Neo Noir crime isn't always punished and we almost want her to get away with what she has done.  And in today's society with Neo Noir we can show the steamy sex scence and the real realationship that the women make up with the men they confuse.  In Noir we just can see part of this i like being able to see a women really manipulate a man and not just jump to the next scene.  And most of the time in Noir men can't get away. In the article we read it states that In Albania they say women can do everything that men can do but they just can't have sex because what man want's to sleep with a woman who is exactly like them. Also in Noir she can only use her sexuality to for moral character or playing a bad women role to gain indepence from the men that oppress her thus making her look bad.   And in Neo Noir the roles are reversed women loose the since of kindness for power and motherly side and are seen more or less then what it's to be a human being.  They portyal of the mens roles i think is awesome. And it makes u really think from a womens perspective rather then the normal perspective of a man.  And how they are just like us and can do anything and get away with anything or maybe even more then men becuase of their innocent nature. 

Critic Robert Roten From Laramie Movie Scope

Robert Roten writes about Philly's Dietriechson and Walter Neff.  He tells us about what we need to know about watching the film Double Indemity.  About the femme fatal and the insurance salesman Walter Neff creating a scheme to murder her husband and get the insurance $ for the scam. Mainly the review is more of a summary of the film and what to expect from the cast and crew.  The film critic or review wasn't that informative other then telling me what i already knew about the film from the book and the movie.  The only diffference i found out was that they didn't use the dialogue from the book.  And he talks about and show's the realationship between Philly's and Walter and how passionate and how strongly they at the start of the film the strong connection they share onscreen.  But in the book they're love story starts out much slower and is not as reconizeable as it's in the film. I believe if Robert Roten was a proper Critic he would have seen more then he did or talked about more then just the summary of the film and possibly hit the other points that were important to the story line.  Like how Philly's not only was a femme fatal who was georgeous younger women but confused about what was important in life and that to be with the ones that you love. She ends up killing innocent children and her husband just to get a buck.  But in the end of the fim is different from the book because Philly's and Walter don't go off into the sunset instead Walter kills her dead in her own house.  After she got the drop on him and spared his life.

Lost in the confusion?
I am writing about the end of the whole novel.  I didn't somewhat understand why it ended the way it did except the only thing that I could think of is that Mr. Huff's empolyers didn't want then to look like Huff was the mastermind behind this and they didn't want to be part of the investagation.  It's crazy that how the end of the story ends Phillys the whole time was a killer of other people Lola's mom was killed by Phillys and three other children at the hospital that she was a nurse for.  I feel Walter and Phillys should have bin burned at the stake for what they have done to Mr. Nirdlinger.  I think that Walter should possibly had a different sentance then Philly's because he played the pawn in this situation and that she has commitied murder before and this was his first offense.  I really didn't understand the last of the story where they both go on to a ship and that they're together again Phillys and Walter.  And how Keyes played a big part of them getting back together even Philly's said that he played a good match maker I really had a hard time following the end of the novel.  All I could suspect at the end Walter kept looking at the sharks fin and probably wanted to off himself before he and she got caught. Or maybe before Philly's tried to kill him again because as they said she's a lunatic.

Film Noir

 The Weight of my own Conscience

I had killed a man to get a women. (pg 54 Mr. Huff). He quotes that he was in her power and their was only one person that could fry him and it was her Phillys Nirdlinger. It's crazy in the start of the book Phillys and Walter have this lust for eachother and half way in to the story they become angry and resentfull towards one another Mr. Huff even says that he can't stand to look at her. Because he finally feels bad that he killed a innocent man for a women that he doesn't really care for now but when at first he had lustfull thoughts for. This is why in a big way film Noir is interesting to me that a man can be so easily manipulated into doing something that they wouldn,t normally do without a push from an outside source. It's not only Walters emotions that change him but it's also the way Phillys is comming off towards him after they commit the murder of Mr. Nirdlinger Walter starts to question his own motive and he finds that he really had none and that Phillys coasted him into doing exactly what she wanted him to do. He even tries to forget about what he has done and can't concentrate on what has to be done and tries to sing a song to calm him down and say the lords prayer but nothing can help him in his current state of disbalief. And that he had to live this the rest of his life that he killed a innocent for a women he can't stand to look at now.